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LIVE: March for England in Brighton

By Sarah Booker Lewis

9:47am Sunday 21st April 2013

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  • The March for England took place between 12.30-1.45pm in Brighton
  • Splinter groups of March for England and anti-racism protesters clash in The Lanes and St James's Street away from the official march route
  • English Disco Lovers dance on the prom in a peaceful protest against the March for England

9:07pm

Around 700 public order police officers were deployed on the operation with mutual aid officers attending from a dozen neighbouring forces, including police horse units. It is thought to be the largest policing operation in Sussex for some years. As the operation officially concluded at 6pm, Sussex Police reported that 19 arrests had been made for offences including affray, ABH, theft, possession of offensive weapons, assaulting police and other public order offences.

9:07pm

Participants in the march who arrived by road were met by police on the outskirts of the city and invited to use a bus to travel to their assembly point in Madeira Drive. The march started shortly before 1pm and returned to Madeira Drive about 50 minutes later. After being addressed by organisers, the majority left the area on two buses and the remainder dispersed gradually, clearing the area by around 3.30pm. Police estimate that around 250 people took place in the march, with up to 1000 counter protestors.

9:07pm

A woman who was treated for a head injury at Pool Valley around midday was found to have tripped and banged her head and was not connected with the march or counter protests. Another woman, who sustained an eye injury in Old Steine, believed to have been caused by something that was thrown, was taken to the Sussex Eye Hospital for treatment.

9:07pm

"This was a significant policing operation, but I am satisfied that the results show that it was proportionate and appropriate in keeping the city relatively peaceful and free from serious disorder."

9:06pm

"I know that the operation caused disruption to the seafront, but I believe that the location enabled us to maintain a firm control on those who might have wished to bring violence and disorder to our city's streets. I should especially like to thank residents, traders and visitors for the their patience and co-operation and in particular our colleagues in local authorities, transport providers and other emergency services for their assistance.

9:06pm

"Elsewhere around the city centre, there were incidents of disorder where people making their way to the march were attacked. Bricks were thrown at police horses that were trying to intervene and police officers came under attack by stones and large bottles of ink. It appears that the vast majority of the disorder that occurred was carried out by a small minority from within those who were there to oppose the march.

9:06pm

Superintendent Steve Whitton said: "While there have been a few incidents around the city, which have been swiftly dealt with, the march itself passed quite peacefully, although there were a few missiles thrown at the marchers. There were some injuries as a result that were treated by police medics at the scene, but none that we are aware of that resulted in hospital treatment.

9:06pm

Here is a statement just released from Sussex Police: "The March for England in Brighton on Sunday (April 21) passed without significant incident and the man in charge of policing the operation to keep the peace has said that he is broadly very pleased with how it went."

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The Argus:

Argus photographers pictures from today's March for England are in an online gallery: www.theargus.co.uk/photos/2013/marchforengland2013

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Reports are coming in of March for England supporters attempting to gather in Old Steine.

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Hooded anti-fascists are staging a march of their own through The Lanes.

Bill Gardner reports  minor scuffles with police as some people try to run onto The Old Steine.

The group is heading into The Lanes, chanting "fascist scum off our streets".

2:26pm

Video of clashes between protesters

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Bill Gardner reporting from outside the Grosvenor Casino in King's Road says small pockets of March for England supporters are in amongsts the anti-march protesters.

One anti protester tried to grab a St George's flag and scuffles break out and police move in.

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Bill Gardner reports hundreds of anti-March for England protesters are gathered opposite the Old Ship Hotel holding placards saying "Brighton Against Bigots".

Subdued looking March for England protesters marchers are kettled awaywith a line of police vans and horses separating the two factions.

Insults are swapped between both sides but there is no violence between the two groups in the official protest area.

1:16pm

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1:12pm

The official March for England has reached the Thistle Hotel.

1:08pm

The Argus:

March for England protesters away from the official route in The Lanes.

1:06pm

 
Bill Gardner has joined Ben James reporting from the city centre.

1:03pm

Ben James reports more fighting in The Lanes. A young woman among anti-fascist protesters was beaten up by March for England protesters and is being treated at the scene.

He reports running battles in The Lanes.

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The Argus:

Police arrest a Stop March for England protester

 

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The Argus:

Mounted police in St James's Street, which is outside the official protest area.

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The Argus:

Blood stains and a broken bottle from an earlier fight near the Sea Life Centre.

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Ben reports there are approximately 150 people gathered at the March for England meeting point.

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The Argus:

A line of police officers separates protest groups

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11:38am

The Argus is receiving reports of the first clashes between March for England and anti-fascist protesters outside the Sea Life Centre in Madeira Drive.

Police have intervened after a scuffle.

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The Argus: English Disco Lovers

English Disco Lovers are dancing on the seafront for the Brighton Boogie.

11:13am

The Argus:

Luna the lab puppy wearing a dogs don't discriminate coat

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11:01am Sun 21 Apr 13

EastStreetLover says

Can someone point out to the Police that Clarendon Mansions, the building on the *other* side of the Police barricade pictured above in East Street, is a residential block of flats that is occupied by, among others, elderly people and young children. So the strategy is to include a residential block of flats within the kettling area rather than offer residents any protection from trouble.

11:07am

The Argus:

As The Argus reported earlier this week businesses in the city centre are bracing themselves for today's march.

This business in East Street has shut its doors completely. Cafés, bars and other business along the seafront were advised by Sussex Police to remove any futniture from the street today.

10:58am

The Argus:

The sea swimming club are in the water, but on a day like today the beach would probably be busier than this.

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The Argus:

Reporter Ben James counts approximately 25 police vans at Madeira Drive

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The Argus:

A police barrier at the seafront end of East Street in Brighton.

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10:11am

It seems Sussex Police have an operation on roads into Brighton and are checking vehicles
 

10:05am

The Argus:

British Transport Police at Brighton Station

10:01am

Ben James is one of The Argus reporters following the march today

 

10:00am

Opposition groups are expected to have a strong presence in Brighton today.

Unite Against Fascism and Stop March for England are campaigning against the event.

English Disco Lovers EDL Brighton Disco Vision is holding its Brighton Boogie at the Palace Pier from 11am.

The group is the Brighton branch of anti-discrimination group English Disco Lovers and has the motto One World, One Race, One Disco.

9:51am

Bus services are disrupted during the march today.

The number 77 and the City Sightseeing service will both terminate and restart from the Old Steine.

The 77 will run towards Devil’s Dyke up North Street via Imperial Arcade and Regent Hill to Churchill Square then on as normal.

The City Sightseeing service will go up North Street and along Western Road to Palmeira Square. It will then turn around at Palmeira Square and run towards the station and marina.

Services running between the Palace Pier roundabout and Rock Gardens will be diverted through Kemp Town in both directions from 10am until 3pm.

9:50am

The Argus:

High fences block off King's Road on the prom side to prevent people going down to the beach.

The March for England is due to start at 12.30pm and finish no later than 2.30pm when the road will be closed.

A Jaguar car rally is taking place on Madeira Drive today.

Comments(92)

iceman00 says...
9:56am Sun 21 Apr 13

Racist scum. Listen to their chants today and you'll agree

ronrostog says...
10:10am Sun 21 Apr 13

iceman00 wrote:
Racist scum. Listen to their chants today and you'll agree
I'm sure some of them are as well as plenty who ain't Bit like the anti mob who have a good few unsavoury characters amongst them like the cowardly stone throwing rent--a-mob who turn up at all these protests. No wonder the old bill hate them more than the MFE Same old dichkheads they see everytime.

lordenglandofsussex says...
10:13am Sun 21 Apr 13

iceman00 wrote:
Racist scum. Listen to their chants today and you'll agree
Why the hell does Brighton always attract these two opposing groups? Both of them have nasty overtones.

True patriots would march together under the George cross banner and would include parents, children and the elderly. If such a thing happened then the fascist left would be truly silenced.

The UAF is nothing but a Marxist group funded and organised by Labour and its affiliates. Meanwhile the march for England is made up of mostly boneheaded thugs who wouldn't know English history if it was written on their forehead.

MayaMinor says...
10:18am Sun 21 Apr 13

If you look at these tweets you can see that this is not a peaceful familty march and why they need to be opposed

https://twitter.com/
MelRJ/status/3258997
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https://twitter.com/
NemesisRepublic/stat
us/32589601509592268
8/photo/1

voiceofthescoombe says...
10:29am Sun 21 Apr 13

Liverpool gets a dragon knights and a family festival.

We get racist goons and everybody who fancies a part in cable street 2
And riot police.
My sense of Englishness does not requiring hating anybody who isnt english. An amount of pity obviously but I'd be too polite to mention it.

The last temptation of crisps says...
10:30am Sun 21 Apr 13

A day out for them and a day off for their families.

The last temptation of crisps says...
10:32am Sun 21 Apr 13

First one to try breathing through their nose gets an ice cream.

notaconspiracy says...
10:52am Sun 21 Apr 13

Yes, the MFE muppets have extreme beliefs, but they still have the right to march/protest. Let them have their walk, then go home.

I wonder if the 'anti-fascists' see the irony in trying to stop other folk protesting for what they believe in.

EastStreetLover says...
11:01am Sun 21 Apr 13

Can someone point out to the Police that Clarendon Mansions, the building on the *other* side of the Police barricade pictured above in East Street, is a residential block of flats that is occupied by, among others, elderly people and young children. So the strategy is to include a residential block of flats within the kettling area rather than offer residents any protection from trouble.

PJW Brighton says...
11:32am Sun 21 Apr 13

notaconspiracy wrote:
Yes, the MFE muppets have extreme beliefs, but they still have the right to march/protest. Let them have their walk, then go home.

I wonder if the 'anti-fascists' see the irony in trying to stop other folk protesting for what they believe in.
Yes, but they can March in Portsmouth or Essex where they live. Why do they have to come to spread hate in Brighton? Almost all the protesters I have spoken to today are local ordinary people. These louts in their St George's crosses are anything but ordinary people out for a family day by the sea.

AmboGuy says...
11:35am Sun 21 Apr 13

Why not just give the far right and ultra lefties knives and let them fight it out between themselves - in private!!

A few less loons to invade my city for next time!!

Carl47 says...
11:51am Sun 21 Apr 13

iceman00 wrote:
Racist scum. Listen to their chants today and you'll agree
Why on a nice sunny day after a shocking time of late, Brighton economy suffers again. Empty streets filled with empty people yet again. Why our town? It's a shame our so called Green Party can't stand up and say no. I'm not in favour of either groups, not informed enough but go away

ronrostog says...
11:52am Sun 21 Apr 13

Here we go again, the cowardly bottle throwers are back. Whoever does that is the real scum. Hope the old bill use them batons to good effect today against whoever is at that lark.

mimseycal says...
12:12pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Good grief and all this before the March has offically started.

The Anti-Fascist mob would have done better to ignore this bunch of MfEers. They are just feeding the extremists exactly what they want.

mimseycal says...
12:13pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Chanting EDL and your not English anymore but really ... those MfEers are just on a family outing celebrating St George Day. And I am the Queen of Sheba!

ronrostog says...
12:26pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Well it's pretty true of Brighton, not that many English people here lol Look, they are just winding up the anti's simples. They should have ben left to have their little march then bugger off but instead it has been fuelled by the rent-a-mob lefties who let's face it, love it. Just beats me how Lucas and Shitkat can back this mob. May think different if they get hit by a bottle. I know people on both sides there today and their attitiude towards others is closer than they think. Called lack of tolerance to those views that are different.

mimseycal says...
12:34pm Sun 21 Apr 13

And so it starts ... the annual Brighton scrap between extremists on the left and on the right. Much as I object to the far right extreme, at least they have the bottle to announce themselves.

HairyDan says...
12:38pm Sun 21 Apr 13

How dare these neo-Nazis claim there is anything patriotic about their movement? This country's finest moment was the victory over the Nazis in the second world war. My grandfather won a medal for shooting people like the scum who are now parading along the seafront.

ron.1952 says...
12:45pm Sun 21 Apr 13

What makes me laugh out loud is the fact St George wasn't even English. The knuckle draggers love to gloss over that.

Ronny

welshmen says...
12:48pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Nazi Fascist UAF, Government backed to silence anybody that has another way to make this Country Great again, Cameron has already announced that Multicultures don't WORK, just like MOST of the UAF scum....benefit scroungers trying to stop English people being proud of there Country

mimseycal says...
12:49pm Sun 21 Apr 13

welshmen wrote:
Nazi Fascist UAF, Government backed to silence anybody that has another way to make this Country Great again, Cameron has already announced that Multicultures don't WORK, just like MOST of the UAF scum....benefit scroungers trying to stop English people being proud of there Country
Chanting EEEDL is being proud of your country? News to me ...

Nitrous_McBread says...
12:56pm Sun 21 Apr 13

The fascists should be allowed to march - most of them look like they need the exercise.

Perhaps we could rig up a series of big hamster wheels for them to huff and puff round and round in. These could be rigged up to generate electricity, which would surely be a more constructive way to honour that Palestinian fellow they call St. George.

ron.1952 says...
12:58pm Sun 21 Apr 13

welshmen wrote:
Nazi Fascist UAF, Government backed to silence anybody that has another way to make this Country Great again, Cameron has already announced that Multicultures don't WORK, just like MOST of the UAF scum....benefit scroungers trying to stop English people being proud of there Country
'welshmen' proud to be English...LOL

Run along now.

Ron

Hobogirl says...
1:08pm Sun 21 Apr 13

So, despite all this, is the London to Brighton Jaguar run still happening as I did hope to pop down and see it but really don't fancy coming up against the chaos down there.

ronrostog says...
1:08pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Whether you agree with them or not, they should be allowed to march. When every other potest or anti thatcher demo or whatever happens to be the latest topic to disrupt Brighton goes on, most people curse them and get on with their day. Called tolerance, cuts both ways.

The last temptation of crisps says...
1:18pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Police helicopter circling. A number of the crowds appear alarmed by the 'giant shiny wasp in sky'.
Doctors on standby to provide emergency brain-cell transfusions.

A 24-year old grandfather overheard saying something like "3 generations of me family fought for this country: twice at the fuball last week and once yesterday - when the bird working behind the bar at me local boozer refused to put a rum and coke in the baby's bottle". I couldn't hear at all well but it must have been along those lines by his appearance.

I read the M4E are still adept at striking women. Hardly surprising given the amount of practice many get on their wives and daughters.

welshmen says...
2:05pm Sun 21 Apr 13

ron.1952 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Nazi Fascist UAF, Government backed to silence anybody that has another way to make this Country Great again, Cameron has already announced that Multicultures don't WORK, just like MOST of the UAF scum....benefit scroungers trying to stop English people being proud of there Country
'welshmen' proud to be English...LOL

Run along now.

Ron
Jog on ron....

ron.1952 says...
2:12pm Sun 21 Apr 13

welshmen wrote:
ron.1952 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Nazi Fascist UAF, Government backed to silence anybody that has another way to make this Country Great again, Cameron has already announced that Multicultures don't WORK, just like MOST of the UAF scum....benefit scroungers trying to stop English people being proud of there Country
'welshmen' proud to be English...LOL

Run along now.

Ron
Jog on ron....
I bet you had to look up 'jog' in the dictionary 'welshmen' didn't you.


Baaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa, your wife is calling you welshmen.


Ronny

Saltdean Resident says...
2:17pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Why do they march here, most are from outside Brighton and the organiser is from Portsmouth. Have a look at their Facebook page, giving details of coaches that have been organised also giving out how to get here by car and train. I know why they pick here because as Brighton is a more alternative town than most they know it will kick up a fuss and get them more exposure. Well done to the council and the police for falling for this for the last few years. I do believe that the council can refuse permission for a march if they believe there will be violence or disturbance to the city, well after years of trouble hopefully this will be the last march and the people of Brighton can have THEIR city back and enjoy the seafront on a lovely day like today. Was planning on meeting friends but decided to stay here with the kids, I guess many more families did the same, I'm sorry to the traders who have lost custom today. Enough is enough, the people of Brighton are fed up with all these extremists, left and right, but hey who gives a monkey what the normal man on the street wants. Really peeved today and not happy, go home the lot of you and don't come back.

pearlygrey says...
2:29pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Saltdean Resident wrote:
Why do they march here, most are from outside Brighton and the organiser is from Portsmouth. Have a look at their Facebook page, giving details of coaches that have been organised also giving out how to get here by car and train. I know why they pick here because as Brighton is a more alternative town than most they know it will kick up a fuss and get them more exposure. Well done to the council and the police for falling for this for the last few years. I do believe that the council can refuse permission for a march if they believe there will be violence or disturbance to the city, well after years of trouble hopefully this will be the last march and the people of Brighton can have THEIR city back and enjoy the seafront on a lovely day like today. Was planning on meeting friends but decided to stay here with the kids, I guess many more families did the same, I'm sorry to the traders who have lost custom today. Enough is enough, the people of Brighton are fed up with all these extremists, left and right, but hey who gives a monkey what the normal man on the street wants. Really peeved today and not happy, go home the lot of you and don't come back.
Having been there today and witnessed the re-enactment of scenes from Quadrophenia in East Street, I'm inclined to agree. It's madness to let these idiots into our city and then pretend it's just another Sunday at the seaside. The crazy-elaborate barricading and policing provision must have made someone stop and think - "is this really a good idea", surely?

Brigtonview says...
2:30pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Well done to the police today, well controlled keeping the public safe!

Angryoldman says...
2:40pm Sun 21 Apr 13

The anti crowd are just as troublesome as the EDL. I was at the bottom of St Jimmy’s St when about 50 hoodies all in black came screaming up the road. They charged the bookmakers and hit someone wearing a union jack top.
They're all animals.
The police have done a fabulous job today protecting innocent families from these pathetic troublemakers.
Brighton has lost millions today because of these two groups.

Arrggh says...
2:53pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Because of two groups?
The suggestion ignores that Brighton would've carried on as normal were it not for a hundred and fifty people on the march.
I can understand wanting to protest against a group that has promised to smash the reds and worse since last year.
MfE are convinced that anyone who opposes them is a communist- delightfully anachronistic if it were not for the broadness of their definition.
Some are convinced that even the Daily Mail is left-wing and have announced that commies are a target.
How they identify commies isn't clear but short of agreeing with them anyone is suspect.

pearlygrey says...
2:55pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Angryoldman wrote:
The anti crowd are just as troublesome as the EDL. I was at the bottom of St Jimmy’s St when about 50 hoodies all in black came screaming up the road. They charged the bookmakers and hit someone wearing a union jack top.
They're all animals.
The police have done a fabulous job today protecting innocent families from these pathetic troublemakers.
Brighton has lost millions today because of these two groups.
They'd have been much better and more cheaply protected if the MfE had not been allowed to go ahead in the first place.

longman says...
3:02pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Walking under the flag of St George on St George's Day - should someone tell them that it is on Tuesday?

To echo a previous post - thanks to the police for doing their jobs under such circumstances.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
3:14pm Sun 21 Apr 13

The real issue here is our ridiculous so called council and the wasters that voted them into office.

Of course these types of protests should not be allowed.

Of course the police should not have to go to such measures to protect the good people of Brighton.

As to the protesters, then my view is they are no worst than the lefty scum that also turned up to enforce their nonsensical views on our City.

How I wish they could all have been 'kettled' for hours on end.

Well done and thanks as always to the great police.

Carl47 says...
3:15pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Go on Caroline Lucas, who's paying the police bill? Refunding the poor businesses losses?
Fingers crossed yr muppet party won't get re-elected.

Get real and have the guts to say no to any other of these marches

qm says...
3:26pm Sun 21 Apr 13

mimseycal wrote:
Chanting EDL and your not English anymore but really ... those MfEers are just on a family outing celebrating St George Day. And I am the Queen of Sheba!
Your Majesty?? . . . . . . :))

P.Dant says...
4:02pm Sun 21 Apr 13

An Argus Commenters March would be far worse.

qm says...
4:12pm Sun 21 Apr 13

P.Dant wrote:
An Argus Commenters March would be far worse.
Nah! A warm and friendly gathering sharing tea and buns - providing all brought their medication that is ;)

Dr Watts says...
4:36pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Another demo where those poor beautiful horses were used by the police as shields and weopons....bless them the dear creatures didnt look happy at all...and why should they getting pelted whilst walking with the bunch of thug protesters...leave the horses out of it...surely the army of police is enough with the helicopters,vans,bik
es...all that was missing was a tank ....but playing abba over the top of the racist thugs did raise a smile.....

StevieD says...
4:42pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Just an excuse for a fight between two extreme groups of morons regardless of race, colour etc. Shades of mods v rockers in the 60's and 70's. Why allow it to happen at all? Police doing a great but difficult job.

leftysmellbags says...
5:21pm Sun 21 Apr 13

I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.

Saltdean Resident says...
5:33pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.

mimseycal says...
5:35pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Right who is for a lining the route and turning our backs next year. I've had it up to here and beyond with these two sides of an extremely tarnished coin!

leftysmellbags says...
5:46pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.

deve says...
6:21pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Dont agree with either of the extremiest views. However the far left were a disgrace. Running around masked up, kids mostly out for a day winding up police and anybody else. They want a civilised society - then join the real world. We dont like you, your attitude, and your way of protesting. I dont like racists, but I like you even less - dont drag decent people down to your level. Not in my name

thevoiceoftruth says...
6:32pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Keep taking the medication, smelly.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
6:42pm Sun 21 Apr 13

deve wrote:
Dont agree with either of the extremiest views. However the far left were a disgrace. Running around masked up, kids mostly out for a day winding up police and anybody else. They want a civilised society - then join the real world. We dont like you, your attitude, and your way of protesting. I dont like racists, but I like you even less - dont drag decent people down to your level. Not in my name
Absolute scum that highlight most things wrong with our current approach to the welfare state and legislation.today.

Anyone who attempts to hide their face is in my opinion a coward and should be arrested on sight. The lot of them should have been systematically arrested today and locked away for 3 months minimum

pebble counter says...
6:44pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Trouble is it's not as simple as two sides of thugs fighting eachother, there will be peaceful protesters in the non EDL side. If it was as simple as two groups, I'd introduce a permit to protest costing £50, which might cover the police overtime. Then I'd get the Met down to police it, and stick the protesters on the beach between the piers and stop anyone from leaving. If only it was that simple.

leftysmellbags says...
6:47pm Sun 21 Apr 13

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Keep taking the medication, smelly.
You wish you had my medication you are probably going to get your rocks off tonight over your days anarchism and lets face it I smelly nice you stink on many levels.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
6:49pm Sun 21 Apr 13

pebble counter wrote:
Trouble is it's not as simple as two sides of thugs fighting eachother, there will be peaceful protesters in the non EDL side. If it was as simple as two groups, I'd introduce a permit to protest costing £50, which might cover the police overtime. Then I'd get the Met down to police it, and stick the protesters on the beach between the piers and stop anyone from leaving. If only it was that simple.
As it isn't it shouldn't be allowed to take place in public used areas.

These idiots should be forced to hire a suitable venue and pay for all associated policing costs deemed relevant and any costs for damage caused. The right wingers should also be made to follow a similar approach.

Anyone disagreeing with this suggestion is either stupid, or has a vested interest in causing nuisance and either way should be locked up as well.

Saltdean Resident says...
6:51pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.

thevoiceoftruth says...
7:09pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Keep taking the medication, smelly.
You wish you had my medication you are probably going to get your rocks off tonight over your days anarchism and lets face it I smelly nice you stink on many levels.
Ever heard of full stops or commas? Thought not. Thanks for the offer but I don't want your anti-psychotic drugs. Thank you :)

leftysmellbags says...
7:09pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.

Saltdean Resident says...
7:22pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Maybe it's a tech thing, but as far as I can see it says Saltdean and I'm very happy to live here, that's why I call myself Saltdean Resident. Good to see you don't dispute anything I said only to dispute the relationship I had with my father whom I loved very much, a man who also loved and nurtured his children, also the same man who was given the freedom of the City if London ( signed in goats skin by the King) for his efforts at saving his fellow man. But hey don't let me stop you.

Reality50 says...
7:25pm Sun 21 Apr 13

I think the time has come to re analyse politically where in Britain -and Europe-the land lies on political ideology. I firmly believe the far Left-Marxists,Commun
ists,Anarchists are the real fascists. Most of the far Left are anti Israel and also anti free speech for example. Most far right groups DO support free speech and most respect Israels right to exist. Winston Churchill was right when he said "The fascists of his time will pose as anti fascists in the future". I would class the SWP and UAF as fascists certainly. As for the March For England event my view is there would have been no trouble had there been no counter demo by the far Left. It is increasingly evident the far Left are Anglophobic and to object violently to English people celebrating their culture on St Georges is pathetic. Had this been a march celebrating St Patrick or a pro Muslim demo then the far Left woyld be supporting it. Anglophobia needs to be challenged and good on the MfE for turning out in better than expected numbers to celebrate their culture and patron saint in a town full of left wing Anglophobic middle class/studenty bigots. MfE made their point today and the day was a disaster for the far Left as the event went ahead and will go ahead next year. SAY NO TO ANGLOPHOBIA AND THE FAR LEFT FASCISTS!

tonygreenstein says...
7:27pm Sun 21 Apr 13

ronrostog wrote:
Well it's pretty true of Brighton, not that many English people here lol Look, they are just winding up the anti's simples. They should have ben left to have their little march then bugger off but instead it has been fuelled by the rent-a-mob lefties who let's face it, love it. Just beats me how Lucas and Shitkat can back this mob. May think different if they get hit by a bottle. I know people on both sides there today and their attitiude towards others is closer than they think. Called lack of tolerance to those views that are different.
This is the same tired old story of 'ignore them and they'll go away'. There's no truth to it because fascism grows if it is seen to be able to control the streets.

The comparison between a bottle thrown at fascists and those who would murder millions beggars belief, even for the more stupid sections of the right.

But ronrostog uses the same terminology as the fascists themselves 'rent a mob'. Really? Does he have any proof that anyone was paid to attend? Of course he doesn't because there isn't any evidence. It's precisely the gullible right like Rostog who, like in Greece today with its massive crisis, are game for 'simple' solutions and their neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn whose support has jumped from .7% to about 13% today.

It would seem that some right-wingers have learnt nothing from history, which I'll put down to a failure in their schooling.

PJW Brighton says...
7:28pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Interesting to see that these oh-so-definitely not racists chose the 20th anniversary of Stephen Lawrence's murder to disrupt our city with their march.

tonygreenstein says...
7:31pm Sun 21 Apr 13

mimseycal wrote:
And so it starts ... the annual Brighton scrap between extremists on the left and on the right. Much as I object to the far right extreme, at least they have the bottle to announce themselves.
'Much as I object to the far right'. Cue for someone who doesn't object to them but can't find a reason to proclaim his sympathies. So he says at least they 'have the bottle to announce themselves'. And anti-fascists didn't?

'Didn't like Hitler, Mussolini and Spain but at least they had the b to proclaim their sympathies'.

Must be in running for idiotic comment of the week at least

thevoiceoftruth says...
7:31pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Durrr - can't you read this person's name. It clearly says 'Saltdean Resident'. Hopeless, utterly hopeless..!

Saltdean Resident says...
7:33pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Maybe it's a tech thing, but as far as I can see it says Saltdean and I'm very happy to live here, that's why I call myself Saltdean Resident. Good to see you don't dispute anything I said only to dispute the relationship I had with my father whom I loved very much, a man who also loved and nurtured his children, also the same man who was given the freedom of the City if London ( signed in goats skin by the King) for his efforts at saving his fellow man. But hey don't let me stop you.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
7:35pm Sun 21 Apr 13

tonygreenstein wrote:
ronrostog wrote:
Well it's pretty true of Brighton, not that many English people here lol Look, they are just winding up the anti's simples. They should have ben left to have their little march then bugger off but instead it has been fuelled by the rent-a-mob lefties who let's face it, love it. Just beats me how Lucas and Shitkat can back this mob. May think different if they get hit by a bottle. I know people on both sides there today and their attitiude towards others is closer than they think. Called lack of tolerance to those views that are different.
This is the same tired old story of 'ignore them and they'll go away'. There's no truth to it because fascism grows if it is seen to be able to control the streets.

The comparison between a bottle thrown at fascists and those who would murder millions beggars belief, even for the more stupid sections of the right.

But ronrostog uses the same terminology as the fascists themselves 'rent a mob'. Really? Does he have any proof that anyone was paid to attend? Of course he doesn't because there isn't any evidence. It's precisely the gullible right like Rostog who, like in Greece today with its massive crisis, are game for 'simple' solutions and their neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn whose support has jumped from .7% to about 13% today.

It would seem that some right-wingers have learnt nothing from history, which I'll put down to a failure in their schooling.
What a silly and irrelevant comment!

tonygreenstein says...
7:36pm Sun 21 Apr 13

StevieD wrote:
Just an excuse for a fight between two extreme groups of morons regardless of race, colour etc. Shades of mods v rockers in the 60's and 70's. Why allow it to happen at all? Police doing a great but difficult job.
Every ounce of bigoted cliches mixed into one, without an ounce of rationale.

Getting a life is the least of his problems. Trying to find intelligent human life in ol' smelly bags is the main task!

HJarrs says...
7:42pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Don't forget all the others that fought in the war, apparently the English, brave though they may have been, were a small minority. How nice it has been to welcome the grandchildren of our brave and forgotten (abandoned?) loyal allies the Poles, or what about our brothers and sisters across commonwealth and empire.

How proud we can be that those returning from war had the far sightedness to overturn the prewar vested interests to create the welfare state, NHS, take control of many ailing industries etc. all of which are being undermined by your ruling elite.

I don't think the vast majority fought for miserable little Englanders like you, and I seem to recall reading that those returning ww2 soldiers gave a good hiding to that time's equivalent of the EDL and BNP on the Level in the late 40's.

Choppa says...
7:42pm Sun 21 Apr 13

left right left right left right
Middle grounds the way guys. Acceptance is Bliss

Roundbill says...
7:43pm Sun 21 Apr 13

You DO realise it says "Saltdean Resident", don't you?

tonygreenstein says...
7:43pm Sun 21 Apr 13

leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Old Smelly isn't worth bothering about. If he had an education it taught him nothing about society or life. Hence his obsession with Rottingdean/Saltdean
.

Fortunately people turned out en masse to oppose this shrivelling group of fascists and bigots and it's no surprise that you find most support for them among the armchair warriors of the right on Argus comments.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
7:50pm Sun 21 Apr 13

tonygreenstein wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Old Smelly isn't worth bothering about. If he had an education it taught him nothing about society or life. Hence his obsession with Rottingdean/Saltdean

.

Fortunately people turned out en masse to oppose this shrivelling group of fascists and bigots and it's no surprise that you find most support for them among the armchair warriors of the right on Argus comments.
The bigger embarrassment sat in the mob who seemed intent on forcing their inappropriate left wing views on all of us. For clarity I am not one of the flag wavers, I detest people who do that, especially those close to my home near Western Road on a Saturday, with flags that have nothing to do with our country...shame on them and shame on you!

welshmen says...
8:04pm Sun 21 Apr 13

tonygreenstein wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
And so it starts ... the annual Brighton scrap between extremists on the left and on the right. Much as I object to the far right extreme, at least they have the bottle to announce themselves.
'Much as I object to the far right'. Cue for someone who doesn't object to them but can't find a reason to proclaim his sympathies. So he says at least they 'have the bottle to announce themselves'. And anti-fascists didn't?

'Didn't like Hitler, Mussolini and Spain but at least they had the b to proclaim their sympathies'.

Must be in running for idiotic comment of the week at least
The lefties and the UAF are Marxist Comies, they want to dispose of the British Culture by Mass immigration.

The problem we have is the Government back them, if the UAF Fascist didn't turn up today there would n't have been any need for the police, anybody that supports our Culture is called a racist....

welshmen says...
8:13pm Sun 21 Apr 13

ron.1952 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
ron.1952 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Nazi Fascist UAF, Government backed to silence anybody that has another way to make this Country Great again, Cameron has already announced that Multicultures don't WORK, just like MOST of the UAF scum....benefit scroungers trying to stop English people being proud of there Country
'welshmen' proud to be English...LOL

Run along now.

Ron
Jog on ron....
I bet you had to look up 'jog' in the dictionary 'welshmen' didn't you.


Baaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa, your wife is calling you welshmen.


Ronny
Ha Ha ha 30-03
looks like it was your turn to have your family BRAIN cell for the day, Ronny is that short for VeRONica....

ron.1952 says...
8:14pm Sun 21 Apr 13

welshmen, baaaaaa baaaaaa baaaaaa baaaaaa. Is that mother or the wife calling you ?


Ronny

Saltdean Resident says...
8:14pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
tonygreenstein wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Old Smelly isn't worth bothering about. If he had an education it taught him nothing about society or life. Hence his obsession with Rottingdean/Saltdean


.

Fortunately people turned out en masse to oppose this shrivelling group of fascists and bigots and it's no surprise that you find most support for them among the armchair warriors of the right on Argus comments.
The bigger embarrassment sat in the mob who seemed intent on forcing their inappropriate left wing views on all of us. For clarity I am not one of the flag wavers, I detest people who do that, especially those close to my home near Western Road on a Saturday, with flags that have nothing to do with our country...shame on them and shame on you!
I'm not sure what you mean by flag wavers on Western Road, but I think our police and council should be ashamed for letting all this happen In the first place. If you took all the out of towners away from the march there would have been a handful of marchers, if that, and the rest of the city could have got on with their business. Would have still liked to see the EDL though ( English Disco Lovers).

Bill in Hanover says...
8:22pm Sun 21 Apr 13

This is no different from the Mods and Rockers spats in the 60's. Just 2 groups of bigots who want to force their opinion down each others throats

Joshiman says...
8:23pm Sun 21 Apr 13

We had a 2% council tax increase imposed on us.Was this to pay for the policing?Brighton Council why are you allowing these demonstrations?its costing us a fortune in policing.Traders have lost money.Traffic chaos.Seafront closed to traffic.Why? Last year we had the 99% ters/renters/ campers.Is it your policy to do what you want and to he'll with the residents who incidently are voters.

Saltdean Resident says...
8:24pm Sun 21 Apr 13

HJarrs wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Don't forget all the others that fought in the war, apparently the English, brave though they may have been, were a small minority. How nice it has been to welcome the grandchildren of our brave and forgotten (abandoned?) loyal allies the Poles, or what about our brothers and sisters across commonwealth and empire.

How proud we can be that those returning from war had the far sightedness to overturn the prewar vested interests to create the welfare state, NHS, take control of many ailing industries etc. all of which are being undermined by your ruling elite.

I don't think the vast majority fought for miserable little Englanders like you, and I seem to recall reading that those returning ww2 soldiers gave a good hiding to that time's equivalent of the EDL and BNP on the Level in the late 40's.
Quite agree so would the old man and a lot who served with him. And to make the point clearer, he was a Captain, an officer and a gentleman but had no time at all for what he called petty facists, he lost too many friends and comrades fighting the real ones. I'm not making it up, it's a well unreported but well understood part of our history.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
8:29pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Saltdean Resident wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
tonygreenstein wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Old Smelly isn't worth bothering about. If he had an education it taught him nothing about society or life. Hence his obsession with Rottingdean/Saltdean



.

Fortunately people turned out en masse to oppose this shrivelling group of fascists and bigots and it's no surprise that you find most support for them among the armchair warriors of the right on Argus comments.
The bigger embarrassment sat in the mob who seemed intent on forcing their inappropriate left wing views on all of us. For clarity I am not one of the flag wavers, I detest people who do that, especially those close to my home near Western Road on a Saturday, with flags that have nothing to do with our country...shame on them and shame on you!
I'm not sure what you mean by flag wavers on Western Road, but I think our police and council should be ashamed for letting all this happen In the first place. If you took all the out of towners away from the march there would have been a handful of marchers, if that, and the rest of the city could have got on with their business. Would have still liked to see the EDL though ( English Disco Lovers).
Oh you should shop at Waitrose next weekend when on Saturday you will have the opportunity to be greeted by 2 groups of scruffy and disheveled miscreants, blocking the pavements shouting insults at each other, whilst waving their large and inappropriate non British flags.

Completely unacceptable and a massive impact on residents such as me as its every Saturday and completely unwelcome.

mimseycal says...
8:35pm Sun 21 Apr 13

tonygreenstein wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
And so it starts ... the annual Brighton scrap between extremists on the left and on the right. Much as I object to the far right extreme, at least they have the bottle to announce themselves.
'Much as I object to the far right'. Cue for someone who doesn't object to them but can't find a reason to proclaim his sympathies. So he says at least they 'have the bottle to announce themselves'. And anti-fascists didn't?

'Didn't like Hitler, Mussolini and Spain but at least they had the b to proclaim their sympathies'.

Must be in running for idiotic comment of the week at least
Well, well, well ... look who has suddenly popped up. Yet another self proclaimed know it all.

Saltdean Resident says...
8:39pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
tonygreenstein wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Old Smelly isn't worth bothering about. If he had an education it taught him nothing about society or life. Hence his obsession with Rottingdean/Saltdean




.

Fortunately people turned out en masse to oppose this shrivelling group of fascists and bigots and it's no surprise that you find most support for them among the armchair warriors of the right on Argus comments.
The bigger embarrassment sat in the mob who seemed intent on forcing their inappropriate left wing views on all of us. For clarity I am not one of the flag wavers, I detest people who do that, especially those close to my home near Western Road on a Saturday, with flags that have nothing to do with our country...shame on them and shame on you!
I'm not sure what you mean by flag wavers on Western Road, but I think our police and council should be ashamed for letting all this happen In the first place. If you took all the out of towners away from the march there would have been a handful of marchers, if that, and the rest of the city could have got on with their business. Would have still liked to see the EDL though ( English Disco Lovers).
Oh you should shop at Waitrose next weekend when on Saturday you will have the opportunity to be greeted by 2 groups of scruffy and disheveled miscreants, blocking the pavements shouting insults at each other, whilst waving their large and inappropriate non British flags.

Completely unacceptable and a massive impact on residents such as me as its every Saturday and completely unwelcome.
Sorry I still have no idea what your talking about as I live nowhere near Waitrose.

Somethingsarejustwrong says...
8:47pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Saltdean Resident wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro

ng
wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro



ng
wrote:
tonygreenstein wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Old Smelly isn't worth bothering about. If he had an education it taught him nothing about society or life. Hence his obsession with Rottingdean/Saltdean





.

Fortunately people turned out en masse to oppose this shrivelling group of fascists and bigots and it's no surprise that you find most support for them among the armchair warriors of the right on Argus comments.
The bigger embarrassment sat in the mob who seemed intent on forcing their inappropriate left wing views on all of us. For clarity I am not one of the flag wavers, I detest people who do that, especially those close to my home near Western Road on a Saturday, with flags that have nothing to do with our country...shame on them and shame on you!
I'm not sure what you mean by flag wavers on Western Road, but I think our police and council should be ashamed for letting all this happen In the first place. If you took all the out of towners away from the march there would have been a handful of marchers, if that, and the rest of the city could have got on with their business. Would have still liked to see the EDL though ( English Disco Lovers).
Oh you should shop at Waitrose next weekend when on Saturday you will have the opportunity to be greeted by 2 groups of scruffy and disheveled miscreants, blocking the pavements shouting insults at each other, whilst waving their large and inappropriate non British flags.

Completely unacceptable and a massive impact on residents such as me as its every Saturday and completely unwelcome.
Sorry I still have no idea what your talking about as I live nowhere near Waitrose.
Without wishing to be rude, do as suggested and you will find out...Brighton is full of these minority groups trying to impose their views on others without considering or caring about the impact of their actions on the majority of people.

Absolute scum and should be locked away!

A.P. says...
9:02pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Can we have a referendum as to whether we allow this event to take place in our city next year?

mimseycal says...
9:16pm Sun 21 Apr 13

A.P. wrote:
Can we have a referendum as to whether we allow this event to take place in our city next year?
You could try starting a petition. Our council is not too hot on referendums but are legally obliged to take note of petitions.

welshmen says...
9:18pm Sun 21 Apr 13

ron.1952 wrote:
welshmen, baaaaaa baaaaaa baaaaaa baaaaaa. Is that mother or the wife calling you ?


Ronny
Good Night Veronnyica,

With all the bleating sounds like you would prefer a RAM. A what ever floats your boat....

A.P. says...
9:21pm Sun 21 Apr 13

mimseycal wrote:
A.P. wrote:
Can we have a referendum as to whether we allow this event to take place in our city next year?
You could try starting a petition. Our council is not too hot on referendums but are legally obliged to take note of petitions.
Good idea, mimseycal. I'll look into it.

mimseycal says...
9:27pm Sun 21 Apr 13

A.P. wrote:
mimseycal wrote:
A.P. wrote:
Can we have a referendum as to whether we allow this event to take place in our city next year?
You could try starting a petition. Our council is not too hot on referendums but are legally obliged to take note of petitions.
Good idea, mimseycal. I'll look into it.
Let me know if you need any help with it. my username @virginmedia dot com

ron.1952 says...
9:31pm Sun 21 Apr 13

welshmen wrote:
ron.1952 wrote:
welshmen, baaaaaa baaaaaa baaaaaa baaaaaa. Is that mother or the wife calling you ?


Ronny
Good Night Veronnyica,

With all the bleating sounds like you would prefer a RAM. A what ever floats your boat....
Off to bed with your favorite ewe welshmen and your wellies on ?

Ronny the ronster x

Saltdean Resident says...
9:57pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Somethingsarejustwro
ng
wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro


ng
wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
Somethingsarejustwro




ng
wrote:
tonygreenstein wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Old Smelly isn't worth bothering about. If he had an education it taught him nothing about society or life. Hence his obsession with Rottingdean/Saltdean






.

Fortunately people turned out en masse to oppose this shrivelling group of fascists and bigots and it's no surprise that you find most support for them among the armchair warriors of the right on Argus comments.
The bigger embarrassment sat in the mob who seemed intent on forcing their inappropriate left wing views on all of us. For clarity I am not one of the flag wavers, I detest people who do that, especially those close to my home near Western Road on a Saturday, with flags that have nothing to do with our country...shame on them and shame on you!
I'm not sure what you mean by flag wavers on Western Road, but I think our police and council should be ashamed for letting all this happen In the first place. If you took all the out of towners away from the march there would have been a handful of marchers, if that, and the rest of the city could have got on with their business. Would have still liked to see the EDL though ( English Disco Lovers).
Oh you should shop at Waitrose next weekend when on Saturday you will have the opportunity to be greeted by 2 groups of scruffy and disheveled miscreants, blocking the pavements shouting insults at each other, whilst waving their large and inappropriate non British flags.

Completely unacceptable and a massive impact on residents such as me as its every Saturday and completely unwelcome.
Sorry I still have no idea what your talking about as I live nowhere near Waitrose.
Without wishing to be rude, do as suggested and you will find out...Brighton is full of these minority groups trying to impose their views on others without considering or caring about the impact of their actions on the majority of people.

Absolute scum and should be locked away!
Sorry you have still not explained, i have no idea what you are talking about.

mimseycal says...
10:07pm Sun 21 Apr 13

@ Saltdean Resident 9:57pm Sun 21 Apr 13 "Sorry you have still not explained, i have no idea what you are talking about."

http://www.palestine
campaign.org/events/
protest-against-soda
stream-2013-03-02/

Can we move on now please?

Hoarder12345444 says...
10:12pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Just looked like some skinhead England wearing chavvy types shouting and grungy looking drug addicts to me.

Arrggh says...
10:27pm Sun 21 Apr 13

Apparently the police view the day as a success-http://www.s
ussex.police.uk/what
s-happening/latest/n
ews-stories/2013/04/
21/police-satisfied-
with-march-for-engla
nd-operation/?utm_so
urce=twitterfeed&utm
_medium=twitter
That will be news to all the businesses who lost a days trading.
Their attendance figure for the march of 250 seems a generous estimate.
They were greatly outnumbered and if their return requires police from six forces and the city shut down to prevent disorder I cannot understand how such a price can be justified.

B G Gruff says...
11:38pm Sun 21 Apr 13

if someone starts a petition to stop this march going ahead next year, i will sign it, surely there are other less tolerant open places they can go and march for england and be welcome. how about clacton?

PorkBoat says...
4:16pm Sun 12 May 13

tonygreenstein wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
leftysmellbags wrote:
I think anyone from today's performance should be able to see that the ugly left are far far far far worst than the right. They oppose and shout and fight against the normal people of England right to defend and demonstrate what they feel. If anyone thinks that these lefties have the answer then they deserved what they get. These lefties are just anarchists which just live for the day and have no thought for tomorrow other than taking drugs and enjoying the day. Caroline Lucas calls them racists - how convenient, maybe this shows the greens deep seated Marxist views. If the green party ever got into power I can see another red/white revolution like the one that occurred in Russia and how did it work out for them? - 21 million + dead and an eventual return to capitalism. F the lefty anarchists - its them that the people should be out in the streets fighting. Smoke and mirrors guys, smoke and mirrors.
Get a life.
I have had quite a good well educated life thanks, that why I know the difference. Also its not me who I worry about its my children and England that I worry for, that's right I mentioned England, is that Racist? isn't that why we fought 2 world wars so we could save our heritage and traditions and give a good future to our children. I say to you Rottingdean resident that you are ill informed and are part of the problem.
I bow to your intellect o educated one, but not your reading skills, I live in Saltdean. I also worry for my children that extremists of all ilk drag their knuckles through our streets spouting evil rhetoric about what England is. As for two world wars, come on, my late father fought for most of it trying to defeat the fascists and bring about a more inclusive society, it would of saddened him and probably hurt him seeing that mob waving a flag that they hide their real agenda behind. As for being ill informed, I think not, I won't go in to details but I am far from ill informed. At the end of the day if they want to walk and wave a flag, shout about England etc etc then do it in their home towns, not mine. I was in Oxford yesterday where there was music, dancing, food, stories and entertainment throughout the city all embracing a distinctive Englishness. At the festival there was Morris dancing, real ale, pies and pasties, Shakespeare and Elgar, and guess what, not one skin head in sight but lots of people from all different races and religions, and guess what, everyone was smiling, getting involved and having a good time, supporting each other and getting together, that is England to me.
Well you call yourself Rottingdean resident- what's going on? - you lie where you live, do you wish you lived in Rottingdean? maybe you should get help - is Saltdean not good enough for you? - are you ashamed for what you have become?That's okay many people like you are angry, maybe you can work extra hours (like many others) to be able to afford a place in Rottingdean. As far as your late father is concerned - he would be ashamed that you have sold England down the road for nothing whilst he and his brothers in arms died fighting for England - Do you ever think about what he fought for? - probably not.
Old Smelly isn't worth bothering about. If he had an education it taught him nothing about society or life. Hence his obsession with Rottingdean/Saltdean

.

Fortunately people turned out en masse to oppose this shrivelling group of fascists and bigots and it's no surprise that you find most support for them among the armchair warriors of the right on Argus comments.
The irony of a **** like you calling others "fascists and bigots". Mind how you go old bean.

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